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Cognitive Impairment
I think the balance is off for this section of the article. Maybe the title itself, it implies something along the line of mental retardation while the article says it is more along the line of a simple defect in thinking. Along the line of balance I think the other side of the point, creativity, is too small and also should be something else. The mania side can also account for hyper functionality, which is a term I probably made up to prove my point. Yes it can induce creativity, but I think there is also a link between bipolar and IQ, positively. I myself am not thinking clearly but I hope someone gets something out of this Chitchin13 (talk) 02:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- In general bipolar people are inteligent and when (hypo)manic quite creative as well, but there may be proverbial exceptions that prove this rule of thumb. I guess there are at least as much differences as with "normal" human beings, but who is able to give a full proof of this hypothesis? Patio (talk) 14:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Cognitive deficit != mental retardation. Deficits like (for example) distractability, difficulty in everyday planning, and memory problems can coexist side by side with high intelligence, creativity and complex problem-solving ability. However, regardless of the many people who combine high IQ and bipolar disorder, and the clear positive correlation between bipolar disorder and creativity, there is no evidence of a positive correlation between IQ and bipolar disorder in the population as a whole, and some evidence of a negative correlation between IQ and bipolar disorder, although the cause-and-effect relationship, if any, is unclear. -- The Anome (talk) 01:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Suggested section
A section on the geriatric care of manic depressive patients may also be useful. (Speaking as someone who is on the receiving end of between four and ten phone calls a day to get stream of consciousness monologues from my bi-polar 67-year-old mother.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.187.222 (talk) 21:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. I started a subsection on it, based on a fairly recent review study. Added it after the children subsection for now, though it's not really specific to diagnosis (lot of overlap/unclearness with the sectioning, guess it's inevitable to some extent...) EverSince (talk) 12:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
To do
I thought I'd just note that there's now a to-do box at the top of this talk page that anyone can add to/act on/cross off. And also if I've removed/changed anything I shouldn't have in my hypomanic go at the article, please reinstate it of course. EverSince (talk) 16:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Disorder?
Does 'disorder' have to be in the title? LamaLoLeshLa (talk) 20:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, that is its proper name. "Bipolar" on its own is merely an adjective. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Definitions etc.
Caveat: being trained in maths and logic, I can be rather pedantic about details, but feel that in this instance the pedantry is justified.
I must praise the author(s) of the article for correctly (IMO) calling Bipolar disorder a 'psychiatric diagnosis' rather than a single 'disease'.
Anyway, the article uses the phrase 'abnormally elevated mood'. I struggle to find an adequate definition of mood, or what it means for mood to be abnormally elevated in this context (most google searches unearth university and other psychiatric pages that are happy to talk about mood disorders and mood stabilisation, but not what mood actually is.) For example, the Mood (psychology) page does not provide an adequate description in this instance and perhaps a separate Mood (psychiatry) page is justified. The Mood disorder page only indicates that mood/emotional disturbance (whatever mood means) is hypothesised as the underlying cause, and there is rather a lack of clarity. Maybe wikipedia is accurately reflecting a lack of clarity in psychiatric circles from which these terms are drawn, but this ought to be pointed out somewhere.
Any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chalisque (talk • contribs) 13:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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