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Contents 1 Main Page error reports 1.1 Errors in the summary of Today's featured article on the Main Page 1.2 Errors in In the news 1.3 Errors in Selected anniversaries/On this day 1.4 Errors in Picture of the Day/Today's featured picture 1.5 Errors in Did you know? 2 General discussion 2.1 A featured pic hat trick 2.2 NRL grand final 2.3 Main Page redesign proposal 2.4 Bravo 2 wikipedia for today's front page (12 Oct) 2.5 Featured sounds on the main page

A featured pic hat trick

I see we have one of the pictures from crepuscular rays on the Main Page today. I'm not sure we had them on the Main Page at the time but both this crep-ray pic and this one have been on Picture of the Day as well, making it possibly (and understandably, given how tempting they are as a subject when you see them and have a camera in hand) the only subject to be represented by three Pictures of the Day. Good work! Daniel Case (talk) 01:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

NRL grand final

How is the result of the NRL grand final worthy of a position in the 'In the news' section? Shouldn't this be about events of global, or at least national significance? The NRL grand final is neither. I call for it to be removed. Suicup (talk) 00:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

It's not from the U.S. so it made it. WTF. –Howard the Duck 02:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

That "news" is completely irrelevant to most of the world (ie non NRL watching Australians). It's neatly sandwiched between topics of greater notability, say the Nobel prize (HIV) and the arguably the world's biggest economic crisis. The contrast in notability is very clear. Whilst it has an article, it is not main page material. 129.78.149.91 (talk) 06:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I've removed it. Fram (talk) 06:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think that was a mistake. We routinely list the championship games of major sporting finals, very few of which are of global importance. Just because it was Australia rather than North America or Western Europe hardly means it is less notable. Resolute 01:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Lemme make it clear that ITN only calls for "international importance or interest," not global importance/significance. Otherwise there'll be a dearth of items eligible for ITN. –Howard the Duck 05:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Any further discussion should take place either at WP:ITN/C or WT:ITN Nil Einne (talk) 19:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Page redesign proposal

Hi Main Pagers! You'll be aware of the Main Page redesign proposal currently under discussion; it would be fantastic if you could take a moment to review and comment on both my personal proposal, and the others too. We really need your opinion and advice to keep the project moving. All the best -- Pretzels^Talk! 15:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Please see WP:ABDFI --58.108.70.161 (talk) 04:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoa! That was meant to be a joke, I didn't realize there was an actual policy named that. --220.236.59.243 (talk) 14:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

It's actually an essay ("just an opinion"), although one that enjoys wide recognition and support. Waltham, The Duke of 22:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Bravo 2 wikipedia for today's front page (12 Oct)

(Not sure where to put this so apologies if in the wrong place but...) well done to Wikipedia for chosing a geography issue and especially one about an important UK urban area. Not sure if these are chosen randomly but as someone who is fascinated by articles like this may I simply offer some cheers for whoever/however it was chosen for the front page feature.  :-) Signed mapmark 12 Oct 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapmark (talk • contribs) 11:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Featured sounds on the main page

I believe it's time to move forwards with adding featured sounds to the main page. There are 98 featured sound files, representing 65 distinct compositions (symphonies and such can contain multiple files because of the various movements) Our statistics are reasonably good, with about a dozen per month in the last three months, and October looking good for a strong increase on that.

And, of course, the greater visibility can reasonably be presumed to attract more people to Featured sounds, increasing these numbers.

This will need some set-up time, of course, so I'd suggest that we start by putting in featured sounds in place of the weekend featured pictures in, say, November or December (I have discussed such a move with Howcheng) and plan on starting a daily run of featured sounds in the new year. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

What about "featured media" - which would basically be featured sound or video, rather than a picture? Garden. 16:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Garden. That sounds a great idea. J Milburn (talk) 16:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the above editors—given the relative scarcity of featured sounds (which is not a comment on the quality of the selections, of course) and the scarcity of space on the Main Page, folding featured sounds into the current "featured image" selection and calling it "featured media" is probably the way to go. If this is done, the first sound selection needs to be chosen very carefully as a useful introduction to the concept, so I'd advise not going forward until you have a specific selection in mind for it. Of course, that's true even if it's not folded into the featured images, too. — Gavia immer (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

This seems rather appropriate to kick it off with - an extremely good quality recording of a song everyone already knows. Raul654 (talk) 17:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I believe, though, that Featured Pictures is already quite a bit behind. I wouldnt mind blending sounds with video, to take some of the load off FPs, but to add sounds permanently to FPs is just going to push things further and further behind. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:58, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll support a rename of "Featured Picture" to "Featured Media" and the inclusion of sounds, but only if one sound is chosen per composition (such as the first movement of la primavera) for now. ffm 23:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking that, as sounds don't take a lot of space, we could probably fit three or four in without too much trouble. That's enough for all but the longest compositions, and for those, we could probably sample or edit them together into fewer files, or the like. In any case, the multi-part sounds are a distinct minority. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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