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more biology of the plant - growing conditions, ecology, herbivores, model plant in plant defense research etc. medical - epidemiology of lung cancer and heart disease, why it's carcinogenic, more on nicotine & addictiveness the role chemical additives play in producing lung cancers and heart disease. how is it cured/prepared for different uses? history - tobacco trade, triangular trade, role in development of the american south contemporary politics - anti-tobacco lawsuits & legislation find attribution for the snuff poem -- see John Graves's essay on snuff in From a Limestone Ledge history of varieties -- in US, colonial orinoco & sweet-scented. Also list USDA types and where they're grown. See www.ustobaccofarmer.com for a nice map. agriculture revise and rephrase tie down sources formatting moved from talkpage by Peter Isotalo 19:59, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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Contents 1 Tobacco In Canada 2 Tobacco Culture 3 Clarification in the Third Paragraph 4 History? 5 I've done a couple additions in the direction of the historical use of tobacco for medicinal uses. 6 Shade tobacco 7 Article restructuring 7.1 Splitering article 7.2 Outline 7.3 New sections 8 Request for Semi-Protection 9 FYI Petersburg, VA 10 Politically correct, but is it correct?

Tobacco In Canada

I think it might be worth mentioning the Tobacco industry as it is in South Western Ontario. Primarily within the regions of Norfolk County, Oxford County and Haldimand County. There is no mention of this in the article at all.

Tobacco Culture

Why is there no mention of tobacco and cigar culture? Tobacco consumption is largely a social indulgence akin to alcohol. The lack of mention of this (especially in the introduction) with the focus on the negative effects of tobacco on the body make it read with a political bias.

Clarification in the Third Paragraph

The first paragraph mentions different ways to use tobacco, and then the third paragraph starts with: "Long term tobacco use carries significant risks of developing various cancers as well as strokes, and severe cardiovascular and respiratory diseases." This just says "tobacco use," however the reference sited is specifically for smoking. Cancer should be a no-brainer for most people, but it's unclear as to whether or not all of these problems are caused by all tobacco use, given the reference.

History?

tobbaco is a very important plant so wheres the history the plant is almost as important if not more important historicly than some of the other plants like sugar the number of spices europeans were looking for in the 16th century cotton salt its way up on the list of historicly significant resources so where is the history

I've done a couple additions in the direction of the historical use of tobacco for medicinal uses.

This is something that I feel that has not been fully addressed in this Wikipedia article. Every addition is fully referenced from reliable sources. (Universities.)~~Martin M. Haffner~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.137.145.125 (talk) 19:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Shade tobacco

I'm not interested in working on this article myself, but a colleague just emailed me a reference someone might want to use in expanding (or just referencing) the Shade tobacco section: Tobacco-Growing in Connecticut, New York Times, January 27, 1873. - Jmabel | Talk 16:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Article restructuring

Splitering article

This article is becoming increasingly large and detailed that it is to the point where it could easily splintered off to form other articles describing each element of this article, which include but are not limited to: Types of tobacco, Tobacco products, History of tobacco, Tobacco control, and Processing of tobacco. We do not need to enact the entire list at once, but we should being splintering off the larger pieces. ChyranandChloe (talk) 04:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Umm....Wouldn't it make more sense to create the articles first, and then remove the content from the main article?  Frank  |  talk  20:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the first two articles have been created, we now need to write the summaries form the main article. ChyranandChloe (talk) 03:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

This article has almost completed splintering, it is important to coordinate updates in content and so forth.

• Types of tobacco
• Tobacco products
• Cultivation of tobacco
• Curing of tobacco
• History of tobacco
• Usages of tobacco remains as the only stub.

ChyranandChloe (talk) 02:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Outline

In an effort to provide this article a means of reaching GA or FA class, we need an outline and defintion of how we are to arrange the growing amount of content:

• History, contains three subsections.
  • Early developments, discusses its usage to just before its popularization in trade
  • Popularization, discusses its popularization to its usage before the scientific revelation
  • Contemporary, discusses its scientific revelations and recent developments
• Biology, contains two subsections.
  • Nicotiana, summary of the article
  • Healthy effects, how it affects human biological processes.
• Usages, contains two subsections.
• Processing, contains four subsections.
  • Cultivation, how its grown.
  • Curing, how its cured.
  • Types, types of tobacco, summery of Types of tobacco.
  • Products, tobacco products and paraphernalia, summery of Tobacco products.
• Cultural impact, details popular culture such as advertisements and so forth, and clubs or groups centered around it
• See also, related articles.
• References, contains two subsections.
  • Notes, inline citation.
  • Bibliography, non-inline citation.
• Further reading, list of books providing background information.
• External links, list of links.

I hope this helps. ChyranandChloe (talk) 05:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that it is possible to better place the section Usages. ChyranandChloe (talk) 02:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

New sections

There have been several new sections which include: Biology, and its subsection (Health effects and Herbatology); Usages (Medicine, and Controlled substance); and Culture. Many of these sections already have a main section which can be summarized to complete these new sections. Comments can be found in these new sections describing where information can be summarized. ChyranandChloe (talk) 07:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The article is now a lot more colorful than it was before with all the expansion and referencing templates. About three sections contain only a single sentence and require expansion, the rest still need to be expanded, but it is not in such dire need. Once again, comments can be found within each section detailing what remains to be added and where to find it. ChyranandChloe (talk) 07:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

hate to be the one who says "you need this section but i aint going to look it up" but you didnt mention shisha (dont think thats how its spelled), otherwise known as flavored tobacco (apple orange whatever). It is often smoked in a hookah... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.68.100 (talk) 05:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for Semi-Protection

Vandalism has spike at an appalling rate. Since the 20th of August vandalism has entirely dominated the edits for this page. From August 20 to the time stamp on this section: 52 edits has been made, of which only three appeared to be constructive. Thus yielding at least a 90% vandalism rate. All vandalism has been made by unregistered users.

Tobacco, posses overwhelming PoV. Under WP:ROUGH to ensure that the content of this article remains clean, relevant, and accurate. I am requesting Semi-protection. ChyranandChloe (talk) 03:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

FYI Petersburg, VA

FYI for those interested in improving this and related articles, there may be a sentence or two worth writing after reading the the Petersburg, Virginia talk page. Unfortunately it is not cited but does contain a good starting point for researching the history of tobacco farming in the United States. Sswonk (talk) 00:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Politically correct, but is it correct?

Reading the article one might wonder why tobacco is used at all. Oh, wait! It is mentioned that it's highly used by the mentally ill. That must be it. Thank you sir. Maybe it's time YOU smoke a cigarette? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.235.109 (talk) 15:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Please remember that Wikipedia is not a forum. The benefits section is undeveloped and requires additional concise content from the main article it was taken from, Health effects of tobacco. ChyranandChloe (talk) 00:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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