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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 8

  • ... that the newly discovered Baby Boom Galaxy (pictured) is producing stars at a surprising rate of up to 4,000 per year, compared to our own Milky Way galaxy that churns out an average of just 10 stars per year? (self nom - created) --Fatal!ty (T☠LK) 10:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
ref history and size fine. Pic is eye catching too. Victuallers (talk) 11:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
ref, history and expansion fine. Victuallers (talk) 11:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
ref, history and size fine. Victuallers (talk) 11:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that Ralph Sandwich served as the justice at the 1305 trial of William Wallace? self-nom expansion from 207 chars minus boxes/refs to 3047 chars minus boxes/refs. Ironholds 01:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
ref, history and expansion fine. Victuallers (talk) 11:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that cardanol, a substance obtained from a byproduct of cashew nut processing, is used to make vehicle brakes and coatings for concrete floors? (self nom - created) --Itub (talk) 11:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 7

The ruinous, ancestral island-castle of Clan McCorquodale, located on Loch Tromlee in Argyll, Scotland.
all ok (there is an online source under "Corquodale"). Picture is eye catching but not sure if this was the land given. Victuallers (talk) 14:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
all ok (use the online source which confirms this fact. Victuallers (talk) 14:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Wanna link to Footprint and Archaic Homo sapiens in the hook? Should this be listed at Footprint#Ancient footprints?--76.64.76.118 (talk) 04:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes! Thank you. Added those links. --Doug Coldwell talk 11:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
all ok Victuallers (talk) 12:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that as special counsel investigating loans made to Jimmy Carter, Paul Curran became the first lawyer to question a sitting U.S. President under oath in an investigation of that president? -- new article by Alansohn (talk) 19:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that Russian doctor and serial killer Maxim Petrov was caught because he found the names of his twelve victims all on the same list of patients and the police could predict his next victims? -- new article, self-nom Malick78 (talk) 16:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Article needs another 500 bytes which shouldnt be hard with this fascinating character. History is fine, 1 english ref is fine, 2 russian ones AGF hook could use some tightening up dm (talk) 16:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Just over 500 have now been added. Should be enough now:) Malick78 (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
And for a tighter hook, how about?
  • ... that Russian doctor and serial killer Maxim Petrov was caught because he took the names of his twelve victims all from the same list of patients, enabling police to predict who he would kill next? Malick78 (talk) 11:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
all fine Victuallers (talk) 12:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
OR *... that the Palestinians consider the East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Jabel Mukaber as the site of their future capital?
OR *... that the East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Jabel Mukaber has been the location of numerous demonstrations and protests by Israeli activists who consider it a hotbed for terrorism and an obstacle to the peace process?
(I assume all of these hooks will attract some controversy, but tried to keep them as neutral as possible) (Cheers! Self-Nom by --Fatal!ty (T☠LK) 14:59, 7 September 2008 (UTC))
Ceiling painting of the marble hall of the Melk Abbey(1731)
Three possible shapes of the universe
ALT ... the flatness problem within the Big Bang model has several proposed explanations including cosmic inflation and multiple universes? dm (talk) 17:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Ivan Milev self-portrait
  • ... that firefighters still use hose straps today, even though they have been in use since at least 1898? -- Self nom, new article. Jclemens (talk) 07:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I suggest "WSJ. magazine" not just "WSJ", because the title has a period and because the better-known Wall Street Journal newspaper is also known as the WSJ. Art LaPella (talk) 22:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • It is my belief that the proper title of the magazine is WSJdot. It is like Yahoo!. See the logo at [1]. WSJ. magazine would be a good redirect and I will create it immediately.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • But do you agree that it should be "... of the WSJ. magazine has average ... " in the hook, to avoid confusion with the newspaper? I didn't mean to rename the article. Art LaPella (talk) 00:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Oops, make that italics: "... of the WSJ. magazine has average ..." Art LaPella (talk) 00:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Interesting article and it makes me want to get some cheese. Length, refs, and hook verified.Nrswanson (talk) 06:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Sweet, thanks! And the mac & cheese is that good there. rootology (C)(T) 06:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Memiljeon
Houses of the Snyder family

Articles created/expanded on September 6

A replacement can be located next to the original route. That's not special. Do you mean it operated next to the original it was supposed to (but did not) replace? --76.64.76.118 (talk) 04:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Why link to wiktionary when you can link to [Association football|soccer]]? --76.64.77.212 (talk) 21:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Because its difficult to believe that anyone is going to see this hook and want to investigate british football. They might (just) want to remind themselves what soccer is. Is it a problem to link to a wiki sister project? Change it if you feel strongly. Victuallers (talk) 15:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that, when the disgraced Tang Dynasty chancellor Yuan Zai requested a quick death, the executioner apologized, took off his socks and stuffed them in Yuan's mouth, and executed him? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 00:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that by the time the Wye Valley Railway opened in 1876, one of the wireworks at Tintern in Wales, which it was intended to serve, had already closed down? (self nom) Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
    • ... that by the time the Wye Valley Railway opened in 1876, one of the wireworks it was intended to serve, had already closed down? Stevage 13:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Can't "in Wales" at least be included? - there are other Wye valleys in the world. Slight problem in that the whole line was not in Wales (it crosses the border with England), but Tintern is in Wales, hence my original wording. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Aril Edvardsen
  • Wow, how cool would it be to have two Kvinesdal-related hooks in the same update, and by pure coincidence! Date, length and ref ok. Lampman (talk) 03:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
This hook is fine for me. Shorter and better. Thanks for the improvement. Oceanh (talk) 13:53, 7 September 2008 (UTC).
  • ... that the Chicago Transit Authority is required to keep the closed 58th station in operable condition because federal funds were used in its renovation? --New page, self-nom by TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 20:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
    • ... that Chicago's defunct 58th station must be kept in operable condition because federal funds were used in its renovation? Stevage 13:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
      • The change is fine with me, though I think "Chicago" should be changed back to Chicago Transit Authority. I can live with it being Chicago if it sounds better though. TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 19:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that Air Group Six was the Navy’s only carrier-based air group to carry out three complete tours of duty during World War II? New article, written by Marcd30319 ...-talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 16:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Need to clarify that it's the US Navy. the wub "?!" 09:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that the Tang Dynasty judge Pei Zunqing spared a group of soldiers accused of treason by pointing out they had neither money nor talent to carry out a rebellion? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 15:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
lengths, date ok, but no in-line cites, so none for either hook ref. Johnbod (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that MV Westward (pictured), "arguably Seattle’s most famous motor yacht," was modeled after a salmon cannery tender? - Jmabel | Talk 06:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC) (self-nom)
  • ... that architect Albert C. Martin sucessfully defended his design of the 28-story Los Angeles City Hall (pictured) against those who argued the city government could fit into the first four floors? new article, self nom. Cbl62 (talk) 06:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
or,
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The Rosendale library, formerly All Saints' Chapel
Abell 39 - WIYN/NOAO/NSF
Alt hook for April Fool's Day consideration:

Articles created/expanded on September 5

  • ... that the child duo known as the Aquatots planned to swim the English Channel in 1951 but were forbidden from attempting by both the British and French governments? self nom: --IvoShandor (talk) 13:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back, Ivo S. --76.64.77.212 (talk) 21:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that the village of Anasartha, located in Western Syria and today known as Khanasser, derived its water supply until 1975 from a 12-kilometre long Byzantine-era qanat? (self-nom) Tiamuttalk 09:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
  • 1496 characters, so another word would be symbolically important... Art LaPella (talk) 03:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I added a few words. Thanks! Boston (talk) 15:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Suggest: "... once took a nap..." --76.64.76.118 (talk) 04:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Diwu Qi minted coins that were valued at 10 and 50 times ordinary coins and was blamed for the subsequent precipitous rise in food prices? (self-nomination, expansion) --Nlu (talk) 02:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
You mean he ordered the minting, right? I don't expect Qi himself to work with molten metal....
  • ALT:... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Diwu Qi ordered the minting of coins valued at 10 and 50 times too high and was blamed for the subsequent precipitous rise in food prices? --76.64.76.118 (talk) 04:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Whether it was "too high" is POV, I think, and the historians who described Diwu's acts, actually, avoided making a stance on whether Diwu was fairly criticized or not. --Nlu (talk) 05:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Note: the reference is a book. Punkmorten (talk) 22:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Length and date ok, ref accepted on good faith. Lampman (talk) 22:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Date, length & ref all good to go. —97198 (talk) 07:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that carved Romanesque stone heads (pictured) were added to the walls of Temple Cronan during renovation in the 12th century as decoration? --new article, self-nom by Intothewoods29 (talk) 21:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually the better of the many good refs on the article say they are original 12th century work. They are Romanesque, trather than Romanesque-style. Johnbod (talk) 02:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh yeah. I removed -style and changed it to 12th century. Thanks for reviewing this so soon. Intothewoods29 (talk) 06:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
date, lengths & hook ref ok Johnbod (talk) 13:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Intothewoods29 (talk) 16:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Looks good! BobAmnertiopsisChatMe! 14:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that Dahn Ben-Amotz was often considered the epitome of the concept of the Israeli "Sabra"? -- New article, self nom. -- Nudve (talk) 09:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Could you add something about the paradox of his reputation as a sabra in the hook? Sabra (person) generally refers to those Jews born in Israel and not those who immigrated there, as Ben-Amotz did. Tiamuttalk 11:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I guess it could be changed to: ... that despite having immigrated from Poland, Dahn Ben-Amotz was often considered the epitome of the concept of the Israeli native "Sabra"? I believe it's within the 200 character limit. -- Nudve (talk) 11:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, date and references verified. Tiamuttalk 13:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Nudve. That's exactly the kind of clarification that I had in mind. Tiamuttalk 13:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
You're more than welcome. It's actually hookier this way. -- Nudve (talk) 18:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
  • He has since shortened it to 206 characters. Art LaPella (talk) 03:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
"Keep it simple, stupid" redirects to a page that says KISS is not always the acronym of those four words. By saying ", stupid", you are calling whoever you are talking to "stupid". That's not nice. --76.64.76.118 (talk) 04:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
So Harris is a journeyman musician, bouncing around bands without a permanent job for decades? Your hook seems to suggest so. If this is how the music business works, is this fact really unique and interesting? --76.64.76.118 (talk) 04:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the hook says that he played with a number of notable musicians which is interesting. Richerman (talk) 13:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 4

  • ... that House Resolution 362, a US bill that endorses a blockade of Iran, could have been created in response to comments made by Ehud Olmert?--new article self-nom by --Zaharous (talk) 01:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that the Croatian eurodance group Colonia won the first annual Eurodance contest in 2001 with its song "Za tvoje snene oči"? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 16:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
A wild Giraffa camelopardalis peralta near Koure Niger.
The destruction of ‘’L’Orient’’
Date, lengths, hook ref ok. Johnbod (talk) 15:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Used (sans picture) on Portal:United Kingdom. Thanks! the wub "?!" 09:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • "most bizarre" is certainly not